Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 665 & 730 Platforms: 11 & 8nm
by Andrei Frumusanu on April 9, 2019 12:30 PM EST- Posted in
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- Snapdragon 730
Today at Qualcomm’s AI Day in San Francisco we saw the reveal of the new Snapdragon 665 and Snapdragon 730 SoCs and platforms. The new chipsets represent updates to Qualcomm’s mid-range and upper-mid-range line-up in the 600 and 700 series. In the last year we’ve seen Qualcomm be particularly active in these segments, pushing out new platforms in extremely quick fashion. Seemingly the reason for this quick succession is that these product segments are extremely cut-throat in terms of price sensitivity, and having new products exactly tailored to customer’s needs often will give one the competitive edge and the desired design wins.
Due to the sheet numbers of Snapdragon SKUs, we’re listing again the recent generations in these two segments to try to put today’s new products into context:
Qualcomm Snapdragon Upper Mid-Range SoCs | ||||||
SoC | Snapdragon 660 |
Snapdragon 665 | Snapdragon 670 |
Snapdragon 675 |
Snapdragon 710 |
Snapdragon 730 |
CPU | 4x Kryo 260 (CA73) @ 2.2GHz 4x Kryo 260 (CA53) @ 1.8GHz |
4x Kryo 260 (CA73) @ 2.0GHz 4x Kryo 260 (CA53) @ 1.8GHz |
2x Kryo 360 (CA75) @ 2.0GHz 6x Kryo 360 (CA55) @ 1.7GHz |
2x Kryo 460 (CA76) @ 2.0GHz 6x Kryo 460 (CA55) @ 1.7GHz |
2x Kryo 360 (CA75) @ 2.2GHz 6x Kryo 360 (CA55) @ 1.7GHz |
2x Kryo 470 (CA76) @ 2.2GHz 6x Kryo 470 (CA55) @ 1.8GHz |
GPU | Adreno 512 | Adreno 610 | Adreno 615 | Adreno 612 | Adreno 616 | Adreno 618 |
DSP | Hexagon 680 | Hexagon 686 | Hexagon 685 | Hexagon 688 | ||
ISP/ Camera |
Spectra 160 24MP |
Spectra 165 25MP single / 16MP dual |
Spectra 250 25MP single / 16MP dual |
Spectra 250 25MP single / 16MP dual |
Spectra 250 32MP single / 20MP dual |
Spectra 350 36MP single / 22MP dual |
Memory | 2x 16-bit @ 1866MHz LPDDR4 14.9GB/s |
2x 16-bit @ 1866MHz LPDDR4X 14.9GB/s 1MB system cache |
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Integrated Modem | Snapdragon X12 LTE (Category 12/13) DL = 600Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 150Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM |
Snapdragon X15 LTE (Category 15/13) DL = 800Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 150Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM |
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Encode/ Decode |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 10-bit HDR pipelines |
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Mfc. Process | 14nm LPP | 11nm LPP | 10nm LPP | 11nm LPP | 10nm LPP | 8nm LPP |
Snapdragon 665
Starting off with the new Snapdragon 665, the new chipset represents a direct update to the Snapdragon 660 announced back in 2017. Qualcomm’s positioning here is quite weird as the new S665 isn’t as highly positioned as the S660 was back then; the Snapdragon 665 instead yet again creates a lower-end within the mid-range 600 series, but then again it’s still positioned higher than the 630 or 650’s series of past.
On the CPU side, not much has changed in comparison to the Snapdragon 660: There’s still 4x Kryo 260’s based on Cortex A73’s plus 4x Cortex A53 based cores. In fact the new chipset’s clock is actually lower, featuring only 2GHz big cores versus the 2.2GHz predecessor. The small cores are still clocked in at 1.8GHz.
On the GPU side however we see big upgrades with the new Adreno 610 GPU which should be a big generation jump. The Hexagon DSP also has seen a generational upgrade to a new 686 block.
Memory controller, media capabilities as well as the modem remain the same. What is to be noted however is that the new chipset is upgraded to an 11LPP manufacturing process which should bring power savings and cost reduction compared to its predecessor.
Snapdragon 730
The Snapdragon 730 is a more interesting generational upgrade. Here the new chipset is seemingly a successor to the Snapdragon 710 announced last year. We actually expected this chipset for a while, but were surprised Qualcomm announce the Snapdragon 675 instead last October. The odd thing about the S675 announcement was that it came with a CPU combination that was inherently superior to the higher tier Snapdragon 710.
The new S730 now solves this weird positioning situation as it now also upgrades its CPU microarchitecture to a “Kryo 470” CPU configuration, which is based off Arm’s Cortex A76 CPU µarch. The cores are clocked at 2.2GHz and are accompanied by 6x Cortex A55 cores at up to 1.8GHz.
We also see a new iteration of the Adreno GPU in the form of the Adreno 618. The new unit promises 25% increased performance over its predecessor.
Important for the Snapdragon 730’s differentiating factor is the fact that it comes with the latest generation Hexagon 688 DSP which includes Qualcomm’s new Tensor Accelerator units for machine learning inferencing.
The new chip’s imaging capabilities are also top-tier with the inclusion of the Spectra 350 ISP, including CV (computer vision) acceleration. In fact the inclusion of these high-end features that we tend to see in the flagship 800 series is the 700 series’ key characteristic: Providing the same features within a lower performance and more cost-effective package.
The new Snapdragon 730 is also Qualcomm’s first chipset manufactured on Samsung’s new 8nm LPP manufacturing node which represents a second-to-best process choice for this generation.
Qualcomm will also deliver a Snapdragon 730G variant of the chipset promising 15% greater graphics performance, a bin variant of the Snapdragon 730 with higher clock speeds.
The new chipsets are expected to be available in commercial devices in mid-2019.
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Teckk - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
Didn't see too many devices with SD 710? Was there any device reviewed with the chip, Nokia 8.1?GC2:CS - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
Would be interesting to see how A76 performs on 8nm node.A5 - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
I think it was very popular with second-tier Chinese OEMs, like your Meizus, etc. Don't have numbers on that, though.MightyGadget - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
Yeah, it was originally supposed to be aimed at the Asian market for an affordable-premium options. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi all had options.To be confusing, it is not long ago that they announced the 712, which is the 710 but a tiny bump in processor speeds and currently only on the Xiaomi Mi 9 SE
Mr Perfect - Wednesday, April 10, 2019 - link
If the rumors are to be believed, the upcoming Pixel 3a XL will have a 710 in it. I'm interested to see how it performs and where they price it.isthisavailable - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
Who is qualcomm making these for? Apart from the Snapdragon 660, i am not seeing phones with any of the other chips. A couple of devices maybe like a oppo phone and nokia 8.1 but thats it.haukionkannel - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
660 most likely will phase out and next 8 years we will see 665 variants. 730 will be very rare indeed, like 710 was. The xomnaies want to have very cheap midrange chips aka 660 and very highend chips like 835, 845 and so on. Low highend did not have market... it seems.c933103 - Wednesday, April 10, 2019 - link
There are dozens of device with Snapdragon 710 and also a few with 675, although most of them are mainly marketed toward markets like ChinaPeeCee - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
I think the clock speed of both the SoC should be increased to some extent, say, 2.3 GHz for SD 665 and 2.5 GHz for SD 730. I believe 11nm and 8nm nodes are small enough to handle higher clock speeds without throttling and I do hope Adreno 618 in the SD 730 is almost as powerful as Adreno 630 in the SD 845.levizx - Tuesday, April 9, 2019 - link
That's unrealistic. 618 will never come close to 630, otherwise it would have been called 628