Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 430, 617 SoCs: Incremental Updates
by Joshua Ho on September 15, 2015 1:27 AM EST- Posted in
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- Snapdragon 617
- Snapdragon 430
While the Snapdragon 820 is most likely to capture public attention as a halo product, Qualcomm has also been working on updating their mid-range SoCs. The first update announced was the Snapdragon 617, which appears to be similar to the Snapdragon 615 with an updated X8 modem for UE category 7 LTE, with support for carrier aggregation of up to 2 20 MHz carriers. The DSP is in the same family as the Snapdragon 615, but it looks like the DSP might have been rebranded. The ISP is shared with the Snapdragon 620, which allows for cameras with resolutions as high as 21MP.
| Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 Lineup | ||||
| SoC | Snapdragon 615 | Snapdragon 617 | Snapdragon 618 | Snapdragon 620 |
| CPU | 4x Cortex A53 @1.0GHz 4x Cortex A53 @1.7GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @?GHz 4x Cortex A53 @1.5GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @1.2GHz 2x Cortex A72 @1.8GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @1.2GHz 4x Cortex A72 @1.8GHz |
| Memory Controller |
1x 32-bit @ 800MHz LPDDR3 6.4GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 7.5GB/s b/w |
2x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 14.9GB/s b/w |
2x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 14.9GB/s b/w |
| GPU | Adreno 405 | Adreno 405 | "Next-gen" Adreno | "Next-gen" Adreno |
| Encode/ Decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p60 HEVC decode |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & HEVC |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & HEVC |
| Camera/ISP | 21MP | Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
| Integrated Modem |
"X5 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
| Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 Lineup | |||
| SoC | Snapdragon 415 | Snapdragon 425 | Snapdragon 430 |
| CPU | 4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.4GHz |
4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.7GHz |
4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.2GHz |
| Memory Controller |
1x 32-bit @ 667MHz LPDDR3 5.3GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 7.5GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 800MHz LPDDR3 6.4GB/s b/w |
| GPU | Adreno 405 | Adreno 405 | Adreno 505 |
| Encode/ Decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p60 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
| Camera/ISP | 13MP | Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
| Integrated Modem |
"X5 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps U 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
"X6 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
The Snapdragon 430 goes along a similar line of thought, but with a bump to 8 cores from the 4 cores of the Snapdragon 410/412. The GPU is also updated to Adreno 505 from the Adreno 306, but what this translates to is effectively unknown. The Snapdragon 430 will also have a UE category 4 modem with the ability to aggregate two 10 MHz downlink carriers for 150 Mbps and Category 5 uplink speeds of 75 Mbps. The ISP will be shared with the Snapdragon 617, which means dual ISPs that can enable a 21MP camera. Both SoCs and the Snapdragon 820 will support Qualcomm’s Quick Charge 3.0, which improves charge efficiency and/or charge rate over Quick Charge 2.0.
Source: Qualcomm
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WorldWithoutMadness - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
So basically 64-bit SD lines has been degraded to kyro and non-kyro. Kyro only for hiend (8xx) and everything else can be any number (430 get 8 cores :D) and then slap whatever stuff in it.I was hoping they could go 6cores for 820 kyro and everything else can get upgrade to 4 cores Kyro. Now prolly depends on A72 performs, this might be the end of QC.
bug77 - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
I wouldn't be surprised if Kryo is replaced soon, too. After all it's based on A57 and A72 is already out. If that's the case, it makes sense Qualcomm isn't pushing Kryo to all segments.Plus, while A57 was plagued with overheating issues, A53 was (and still is) a perfectly sound solution.
milli - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
I can't believe there are still people out there who still don't get it.Qualcomm is building these cores from the ground up. Qualcomm is an ARM architectural licensee. Kyro is not based on A57.
Jon Tseng - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
Yeah. Plus A72 is already in the 618/620 - an /inferior/ product to the 820...lilmoe - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
"Inferior"...Probably inferior in efficiency at the lower clocks (provided the same process node), but I'd like to see clock-to-clock performance.
bug77 - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
They're "inferior" because they are clocked lower (and missing two A72 cores in case of 618), have a weaker GPU, a less capable LTE modem and less memory bandwidth.We don't really know how A72 stacks against Kryo until someone actually runs some benchmarks on them.
bug77 - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
Wrong choice of words.What I meant is Qualcomm has built Kryo to "beat" A57, but at the same time ARM was doing the same thing (albeit in a very different way, because they stuck to big.LITTLE) with A72. There's probably many goodies in A72 that Qualcomm could incorporate into Kryo (or a subsequent iteration). Then again, maybe they already have.
phoenix_rizzen - Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - link
Would have been nice if they bumped the model number up for the 64-bit SoCs, to differentiate them from the 32-bit SoCs (ie, S900, S700, S500 for the 64-bit SoCs).And then bumped it again for the custom-core SoCs (ie S1000). And then they could have sub-divided the 1000-series based on performance (S1200, S1400, S1600, S1800, for example).
But, that would be too logical, and provide too much information to people, so Qualcomm decided against it. :(
iamiguel - Sunday, September 20, 2015 - link
All of their recent chipsets bar the S210 are 64bit so they probably wouldn't need to differentiate that fact anymore - I believe that having that many separate model divisions could be somewhat excessive also so, A knowledge consumer can be sure that the 200 series is low end, 400 is midrange etc whereas having a 1200, 1400 series etc, might lead to confusion.iamiguel - Sunday, September 20, 2015 - link
disregard the extra "that" and change that knowledge to knowledgable. It's a pity I couldn't edit :(