Qualcomm Swaps Out Arm for RISC-V for Next-Gen Google Wear OS Devices
by Anton Shilov on October 18, 2023 7:00 PM ESTAs part of a broad collaborative agreement with Google, Qualcomm this week said that that it will be adopting the RISC-V instruction set architecture (ISA) for a future Snapdragon Wear platform. Working together, the two companies will be bootstrapping a RISC-V ecosystem for Wear OS devices, with Qualcomm providing the hardware while Google expands its wearables OS and associated ecosystem of tools to support the new processor architecture.
Qualcomm's Wear processors have been the de facto chip of choice for Wear OS devices since the launch of Google's wearables platform almost a decade ago, with Qualcomm employing multiple generations of Arm CPU designs. This makes Qualcomm's decision to develop a RISC-V wearables SoC especially significant, as it not only represents one of the highest profile adoptions of RISC-V in a consumer platform to date, but it means that, depending on Qualcomm's specific product plans, this could see the overall Wear OS market make a hard turn from Arm to RISC-V in relatively short order.
As laid out in the relatively brief announcement from Qualcomm, the company will focus on development of RISC-V-based hardware suitable for wearable devices. While the company isn't disclosing detailed technical specifications of their in-development products, given the company's significant chip-design background, this likely includes customized RISC-V general purpose cores as well as sensors.
Notably here, the announcement is for "a RISC-V based wearables solution," rather than a complete pivot to RISC-V with multiple solutions. Wearables as a whole are a much smaller market than smartphones, so Qualcomm has historically not offered a particularly deep lineup of hardware – meaning that even one chip is significant. Still, this also means that Qualcomm is not formally dropping Arm from its Snapdragon Wear platform at this time.
Qualcomm's decision to embrace RISC-V for a future wearables SoC is significant news for the up-and-coming ISA, as this marks one of the highest profile adoptions of RISC-V in consumer gear to date. The open standard ISA has seen success over the last several years in the microcontroller market, with chip vendors adopting RISC-V CPU cores – often in place of Arm Cortex-M designs – as a means of having more control over their CPU core designs, and avoid paying ISA royalties in the process. Conversely, RISC-V has seen very limited adoption in the application processor space thus far, owing to the more complex chip designs and the overall smaller market. So Qualcomm's plans to use RISC-V in their Snapdragon Wear platform, which has traditionally been based on Arm Cortex-A designs, marks a significant milestone for the adoption of RISC-V into higher-performing mobile devices.
Similarly, Google's backing of the ISA by porting Wear OS to RISC-V is a major milestone on the software front. Bootstrapping a platform based on a new ISA is not just about the hardware, but the software as well, as there needs to be well-developed operating systems and applications to make the hardware useful. All of which requires significant tooling to enable that development. Google, for its part, is no stranger to embracing multiple ISAs – Android has long supported Arm, x86, and even MIPS – and the company already announced earlier this year that they're working to make RISC-V a "tier-1" platform for Android, so the company's efforts with Wear OS will go hand-in-hand with that.
Between the two companies, Google and Qualcomm essentially make up the software and hardware backend of the Wear OS ecosystem. Google's Wear OS, in turn, is used by a range of popular smart watches, including those from Samsung, Fossil Group, Motorola, and Casio.
"Qualcomm Technologies have been a pillar of the Wear OS ecosystem, providing high performance, low power systems for many of our OEM partners," said Bjorn Kilburn, GM of Wear OS by Google. "We are excited to extend our work with Qualcomm Technologies and bring a RISC-V wearable solution to market."
Meanwhile, the decision to use RISC-V for wearables also has the potential to be a big change for the business side of Qualcomm. The company is currently butting heads with Arm over licensing and royalty rates, particularly in regards to their acquired Nuvia IP. That relationship has already devolved to lawsuits, including Arm looking to block Qualcomm's use of Nuvia-designed Arm CPU cores.
In short, swapping out Arm for RISC-V would allow Qualcomm to do away with paying royalties to Arm for Snapdragon Wear chips. The current royalties aren't thought to be extravagant – Qualcomm is using Cortex-A53 here – but a penny saved is a penny booked for Qualcomm's quarterly earnings. If nothing else, the very public announcement about the development of a RISC-V Snapdragon Wear SoC can be considered a shot across Arm's bow, as a reminder that Qualcomm could eventually do the same thing with bigger and higher royalty bearing chips.
"We are excited to leverage RISC-V and expand our Snapdragon Wear platform as a leading silicon provider for Wear OS," said Dino Bekis, vice president and general manager, Wearables and Mixed Signal Solutions, Qualcomm Technologies. " Our Snapdragon Wear platform innovations will help the Wear OS ecosystem rapidly evolve and streamline new device launches globally."
Source: Qualcomm
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rmfx - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
That's the beginning of the "serious" risc-v era :)Orfosaurio - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Maybe, but recall the history of Qualcomm on wearables.PeachNCream - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
To be fair, I believe a lot of us see leaving ARM behind as a RISCy venture.lemurbutton - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
Say what you want about Qualcomm but they're masters at getting a lot of royalties (from customers) and reducing royalties (to ARM).This is no doubt a ploy to put pressure on ARM to give favorable terms in their next agreement and the ongoing Nuvia lawsuit.
Orfosaurio - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Why don't use the Nuvia cores? Do they scale badly to such low power levels? And/or are they hedging against the ARM lawsuit?Ryan Smith - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
The Nuvia cores are aimed at high performance applications. Nuvia was originally designing server cores. They're a bad fit in terms of power and area for a wearable.Orfosaurio - Friday, October 20, 2023 - link
So you think that the Apple Watch SiP is the lowest level Apple can go with their cores? Thanks for the site and the answer.