I love the "when I can build one..." comments. Tell me, where do you buy the all-in-one case? ...or is your price "almost half" because it's in a $30 plastic box the size of a garbage can? And how much will you sell that home-built computer for? Resale value is just as valid as up-front costs, which is why a $1200 Mac that resells for $900 in three years is better than a $600 PC that resells for $100 (if you're lucky) in the same amount of time. Economics, my dear troll.
You mean someone who buys a computer that meets THEIR particular needs (which, if they want the machine for word processing, email, web-browsing, etc) are perfectly adequately met by an old iMac is being foolish?
They really should have spent money on a CPU which will spend 98% of its time idle, rather than the 92% of an earlier generation; and they really should have paid for USB3 and TB ports they will never use; just so they can boast specs to their geek friends?
I agree with you basically. All in ones never really appealed to me. Too expensive for what you get, not very repairable or upgradable, and not really portable like a laptop either.
You keep saying gullible, but people buy it because it fits their lifestyle.
It's pretty gullible for people to buy $300K cars. I mean you can get from point A to point B with a $10K car too, for 1/30 of the price.
WHAT's YOUR POINT?
If you can sell your MAC for $900 in 3years for a $1200 initial investment, that's $100/year.
Can you say the same about depreciation of your PC?
Again, if you don't think resale value means anything to you, fine with me. But to ignore those numbers like it doesn't exist/count sounds like you are just as gullible.
If you are going to play this "I can get the same thing for 1/2 the price" game, then use ALL the numbers, not just the numbers that suits your talking point.
I have to say its a flawed argument because most if not all iMACs also come with a gorgeous IPS display. Thats what is keeping the resale value, not the $400 worth of PC Components under the hood.
My brother just sold his 2007 MacBook Pro for $600 and it was beat up with slight damage to the screen. He could have got more, and approx 20 people called the day he posted the ad on CL. My Dell Precision cost me $2200, a year later I couldn't get $1,000 after listing it for a month. So I held onto it another year, couldn't even get $200 for it on eBay. Mom's got a quadro in her e-mail machine now.
I think part of the problem with trying sell used Dell's is that once it's been out a few years then everyone knows what's wrong with it. At least when Dell's are new there's the chance that it will be a reliable computer.
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Cali3350 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
When did they sign on as a Apple contractor?ananduser - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
They're pretty well designed. The keyboard and touchpad remind me of Vizio's AIO, though that's not a bad thing.andy3000 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
Wait - the keyboard and touchpad remind of Apple's, you meant to say?B3an - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I normally defend things when retarded iSheep say this and that look like something made by Apple, but that keyboard and trackpad REALLY do this time.StevoLincolnite - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I think they all look ugly. D:ananduser - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
No, Vizio's. Vizio has colored them silver while Apple's are white.GotThumbs - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
You can see anything you want...Unless Apple patented the use of silver paint or the keyboard...then you've just been drinking too much cool-aid.
Personally, there is no way I'd pay that amount for a computer....when I can build one for almost half.
Best wishes,
headbox - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I love the "when I can build one..." comments. Tell me, where do you buy the all-in-one case? ...or is your price "almost half" because it's in a $30 plastic box the size of a garbage can? And how much will you sell that home-built computer for? Resale value is just as valid as up-front costs, which is why a $1200 Mac that resells for $900 in three years is better than a $600 PC that resells for $100 (if you're lucky) in the same amount of time. Economics, my dear troll.BlueFlash - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I knew there had to be people more gullible than those buying $1200 new Macs. Now I know who they are: people who pay $900 for a 3 year old $1200 Mac.name99 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
You mean someone who buys a computer that meets THEIR particular needs (which, if they want the machine for word processing, email, web-browsing, etc) are perfectly adequately met by an old iMac is being foolish?They really should have spent money on a CPU which will spend 98% of its time idle, rather than the 92% of an earlier generation; and they really should have paid for USB3 and TB ports they will never use; just so they can boast specs to their geek friends?
Glad we cleared that up.
frozentundra123456 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I agree with you basically. All in ones never really appealed to me. Too expensive for what you get, not very repairable or upgradable, and not really portable like a laptop either.Casper42 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
So you want a 23" laptop?Dell tried that once. 21" Laptop/AiO hybrid thingy. I think they sold 3
As for Reparable and Upgradeable, here you go :)
http://www.hp.com/go/Z1
web2dot0 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
You keep saying gullible, but people buy it because it fits their lifestyle.It's pretty gullible for people to buy $300K cars. I mean you can get from point A to point B with a $10K car too, for 1/30 of the price.
WHAT's YOUR POINT?
If you can sell your MAC for $900 in 3years for a $1200 initial investment, that's $100/year.
Can you say the same about depreciation of your PC?
Again, if you don't think resale value means anything to you, fine with me. But to ignore those numbers like it doesn't exist/count sounds like you are just as gullible.
If you are going to play this "I can get the same thing for 1/2 the price" game, then use ALL the numbers, not just the numbers that suits your talking point.
Am I not being fair now?
AVJake - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
I bought a 4 year old MacBook Pro for my son for $400, so I think your math needs a little work.name99 - Monday, September 10, 2012 - link
Go to eBay and enter iMac 2009.The prices are somewhat variable, depending on details like RAM and condition, but they cluster around $900.
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Apple-iMac-215-Desktop-MC4...
People aren't just making this stuff up, you know.
The specific price you got for a MacBook doesn't change the "market" price, reasonably measured by a site like eBay.
Casper42 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
I have to say its a flawed argument because most if not all iMACs also come with a gorgeous IPS display.Thats what is keeping the resale value, not the $400 worth of PC Components under the hood.
PS: I hate Apple with a passion.
headbox - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
My brother just sold his 2007 MacBook Pro for $600 and it was beat up with slight damage to the screen. He could have got more, and approx 20 people called the day he posted the ad on CL. My Dell Precision cost me $2200, a year later I couldn't get $1,000 after listing it for a month. So I held onto it another year, couldn't even get $200 for it on eBay. Mom's got a quadro in her e-mail machine now.Maximilian - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
Thats your fault for being ripped off by dell in the first place. I wouldn't even consider buying a used dell =/seapeople - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
I think part of the problem with trying sell used Dell's is that once it's been out a few years then everyone knows what's wrong with it. At least when Dell's are new there's the chance that it will be a reliable computer.silverblue - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link
...has the option of either a Sandy Bridge CPU or an AMD APU. Don't know which APU, mind.