Notebooks at Netbook Prices: How Low Can We Go?
by Jarred Walton on July 28, 2009 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Other Wal-Mart Laptops
Wal-Mart has a reputation of driving costs down, and the $300 laptop does just that. However, we want to know what else users might need to look at once those special discount laptops are gone. We browsed through the current Wal-Mart site looking for other sub-$500 that looked reasonable.
Sticking with Wal-Mart for a few more systems, we have the Acer 15.6" AS5516-5474 for $378. The same laptop is at Frys for $340, so no Wal-Mart isn't always the lowest price around. Again, you can get an idea of just how good that $300 laptop is by comparison, since this Acer has a slower Athlon 64 TF-20 CPU (single-core, 65nm, 1.6GHz, 512KB L2) and less memory (2GB) at a higher price. Acer also uses the AMD RS690MN chipset with integrated ATI Radeon Xpress 1200 graphics - another downgrade relative to the Compaq laptop. All of the other features are essentially the same as the Compaq CQ60-419WM (160GB 5400RPM HDD, DVDRW, 802.11G) and this laptop will still be "fast enough" for typical computing tasks. Normally, this is about as cheap as it gets for a new full-size laptop, so sales are the better option if you're not in a hurry.
Here's an Intel version of the above system, with an Intel Celeron 585 processor (single-core, 65nm, 2.16GHz, 1MB L2, 667MHz FSB). Besides the change in CPU, this laptop also ships with a larger 250GB 5400RPM hard drive and 802.11N networking. It uses the Intel GL40 Express chipset with Intel GMA 4500M integrated graphics - a downgrade compared to ATI and NVIDIA integrated graphics. Battery life is listed as up to three hours. The current price of the Aspire AS5335-2238 is $448, so unless you really want an Intel processor and 802.11N networking we would look elsewhere. If you want a bigger laptop with a 1440x900 LCD, the Toshiba 17" Satellite L355-S7905 uses the same chipset/CPU combination and comes with 3GB RAM (and a 160GB hard drive, 802.11G WiFi, and lower battery life) for the same price.
All of the system so far have been single-core processors, which were all the rage until about four years ago. It's true that you can still get by with a single-core system, but if we switch to dual-core CPUs we get quite a few other upgrades in the process. The Acer 15.4" AS5536-5883 builds around the AMD Athlon 64 X2 QL-64 (dual-core, 65nm, 2.1GHz, 2x512KB L2, 3600MHz HyperTransport), which is essentially two Sempron SI-42 processors. It uses the AMD RS780MN chipset with integrated ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics. You also get 3GB RAM, a 320GB 5400RPM hard drive, DVDRW, 802.11N, Gigabit Ethernet, a webcam, and up to three hours battery life. The operating system also receives an upgrade to Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit, with a free upgrade to Windows 7 Premium Edition when that begins shipping. This laptop costs over 50% more ($478) than the $300 special, but it does provide quite several meaningful upgrades and it's definitely worth a look.
Our Intel dual-core offering from Wal-Mart is the Toshiba Satellite L305-S5961, which barely manages to squeak into our $500 price limit (also available at Buy.com for $480). Similar to the above AMD system, you get a few other upgrades like Windows Vista Home Premium with a free Windows 7 update. In other areas the comparison definitely favors AMD. The Intel Pentium T4200 (dual-core, 45nm, 1MB shared L2, 2.00GHz, 800MHz FSB) is a fair match for the Athlon X2 QL-64; Intel has the process technology advantage but both chips still specify 35W TDP. [Ed: Yes, I know TDP is not 100% comparable between AMD and Intel, but bear with me.] You only get 2GB RAM, the Intel GL40 Express Chipset/GMA 4500M chipset/IGP combination, a 250GB HDD, and 802.11G. Battery life isn't listed but we would guess it's somewhere between two and three hours maximum - similar to the Acer system. For the price, AMD definitely has the advantage right now in inexpensive laptops.
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Morphuess - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
The past few days I was looking to buy a laptop for my father around $500. Your article was perfect timing, and I've found exactly what I want for something that will last my dad a few years.Clones123 - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
It's worth explaining in large bold letters; Windows Vista Home Basic DOES NOT QUALIFY for a free or discounted upgrade to Windows 7.Retailers can be expected to begin dumping systems preloaded with Vista Home Basic which is okay if you plan to downgrade to WinXP anyway (or don't care about Windows 7). Still, I expect that many value-oriented buyers won't understand this critical point and may feel hoodwinked when they later discover the truth of what their bargain deal did not include when compared against slightly higher-priced alternatives.
One can perhaps pay $50 more for Vista Home Premium now and get Windows 7 Home Premium for free -OR- you can pay $120 to get Windows 7 Home Premium this Fall. I know which option I'd prefer.
JarredWalton - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Thanks - I made a note on page one where I discuss the OS on the $300 laptop.customcoms - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Just purchased this for $350: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...Right now its priced at $450, but is typically on sale for lower. Overall, the build quality is decent, and the speed and specs are great for the price! It doesn't come with a bunch of bloatware (< 7 total pre-installed apps, 1/2 of which are google apps, so not overly intrusive), I prefer XP over Vista but thats a simple downgrade and not a knock on this laptop. So far, it manages ~2.5 hrs of battery life, which is about the same as my $1200 Lenovo (T61 with Nvidia 8400M, non-integrated graphics, 6 cell battery). A stripped down C2D at 2.16ghz isn't exactly a slouch of a processor, and it's more than fast enough for anything basic, and it would be faster than most at video encoding as well.
max347 - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
"The M-1631U also upgrades the memory two 4GB and comes with Windows Home Premium 64-bit."JarredWalton - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Sorry - speech recognition and bad editing strike again. Thanks for the fix.Digitman0101 - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
I saw the Aspire One Timeline at Fry's the other day, and the top model was about $700. That is way too expensive for an Atom processor. These manufacturers are getting trigger happy with these Atom processor; that is what Intel was afraid of.JarredWalton - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Technically a single-core Pentium chip, not an Atom... but given the clock speed it should perform similarly.Lepton87 - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Actually it's a little bit faster than intel atom at 1.6GHz overall, but it run circles around atom when it comes to single-threaded performance.philosofool - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - link
Someone needs to investigate whether these $300 laptops from Wal-Mart and Best Buy are just bait and switch products. In store only deals? Come on: this is just stuff to lure people with an interest in a laptop into your computer section and then sell them some thing with a better margin.